[bjc] My dinner talk

Marc Orchant, on January 23rd, 2005 at 10:47 am Said:

David: What a great talk! Thanks to Ben for posting the MP3. This was so much more enjoyable than reading the paper on a Sunday morning!

Jon Garfunkel, on January 25th, 2005 at 8:30 pm Said:

So, if, as you say, a completed essay is the antithesis of blogging, why would any organizations which trade in completed writings (the media, the professions, academia) use blogs?

How is it that a completed essay can’t inspire a conversation?

And you claimed that it takes too long to churn out a completed piece– how do the newspapers manage to do it everyday? I asked this of one of the reporters present, and he laughed.

Jon

David Weinberger, on January 25th, 2005 at 11:15 pm Said:

Jon, I didn’t say that blogging and essays are opposites. They’re different. Sometimes I write essays. Sometimes I blog. We all use varied rhetorical forms.

I said (generalizing, of course) that blogging is conversational because often it is in response to other posts and often there are comments. Of course essays inspire conversations.

I said something along the lines that if you want to keep up with the blogosphere, you won’t have time to polish your work; you have to publish it before you would if it were going into print. Full-time professional journalists can turn out polished stuff every day because that’s their job and they have an infrastructure supporting them.

Jon Garfunkel, on January 26th, 2005 at 12:03 am Said:

David,

I’d check the audio, but the link to the MP3 says page not found. I’ll hunt around some more.

So my response to your clarification: the publisher and the audience agree on the pace, whether it is monthly, weekly, daily. It may not necessarily be instantaneous.

What I treasure about the web, blogging or not, is the asynchronous nature. We can have conversations over short periods of time, or over long periods, perhaps, if we’re lucky spanning generations as in the Talmud.

I of course recognize the value in saying incomplete thoughts– and my venue for that is over a class of wine (or three, as per Friday night), or in the comments sections.

By the time I get around to writing something on Civilities, it’s time to codify things to a little more completeness for my own sake.

Jon

Echo Chamber Project, on January 26th, 2005 at 1:10 pm Said:

Can Tagging Create a Noospheric Taxonomy?

http://www.hyperorg.com/movabletype/mt-tb.cgi/2170
http://www.hyperorg.com/movabletype/mt-tb.cgi/2747
http://www.hyperorg.com/movabletype/mt-tb.cgi/2714
http://rpc.technorati.com/rpc/ping
http://journalism.nyu.edu/mt/mt-tb.cgi/861

Echo Chamber Project, on January 26th, 2005 at 1:13 pm Said:

Can Tagging Create a Noospheric Taxonomy?

David Weinberger gave a speech at the Harvard Blogging conference last week about tagging and taxonomies. Weinberger eloquently described the dilemma of losing meaning during the quantization process by explaining how the Dewey Decimal Classification s…

Echo Chamber Project, on January 26th, 2005 at 1:19 pm Said:

Can Tagging Create a Noospheric Taxonomy?

David Weinberger gave a speech at the Harvard Blogging conference last week about tagging and taxonomies. Weinberger eloquently described the dilemma of losing meaning during the quantization process by explaining how the Dewey Decimal Classification s…

Echo Chamber Project, on January 26th, 2005 at 2:22 pm Said:

Can Tagging Create a Noospheric Taxonomy?

David Weinberger gave a speech at the Harvard Blogging conference last week about tagging and taxonomies. Weinberger eloquently described the dilemma of losing meaning during the quantization process by explaining how the Dewey Decimal Classification s…

Echo Chamber Project, on January 26th, 2005 at 2:24 pm Said:

Can Tagging Create a Noospheric Taxonomy?

David Weinberger gave a speech at the Harvard Blogging conference last week about tagging and taxonomies. Weinberger eloquently described the dilemma of losing meaning during the quantization process by explaining how the Dewey Decimal Classification s…

Jon Garfunkel, on January 26th, 2005 at 10:14 pm Said:

Ok, I found the link– it was in one of your later posts. I transcribed the section in question, and wrote my full response: The unbearable lightness of blogging.

disCOMbobulated, on February 9th, 2005 at 7:50 pm Said:

David Weinberger on blogs

David Weinberger is a fascinating speaker on all things blogs and knowledge. He did a talk at the Library of Congress last year … Another talk from Weinberger is available via his blog…